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=> Jesus Won?

Jesus Won?
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Saturday, January 24 2009, 19:41:14 (CET)
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Rome and Jesus met...and Jesus won? Won what? The backing of the world’s greatest empire...of the Roman armies? The Romans were more tolerant BEFORE Christianity became their official religion. What did Jesus win? The Jews were tolerated by the pagan Romans...under Jesus they were hounded mercilessly for 1933 years....right up to the gates of Auschwitz. Rome is estimated to have put to death 3000 to 5000 Christians....and yet they let them off, even though it was a crime to refuse homage to the emperors, if they merely lit a stick on incense. Under Christ, the Church burned hundreds of thousands of women as witches and killed untold others for heresy and in the process of “spreading” the good word. Won what?

My greatest beef with Durant is that he is far too easy on Christianity....it seems he too confuses what is universal in all religions; love, kindness, gentleness etc. with what is supposedly exclusive with Christianity. Christianity did NOT invent love....or kindness. Christianity was superb organization...powerful hierarchy...effective administration...all which it inherited from Rome. Its theology was picked up from the Greeks, from Plato and the Stoics...even down to a god, Zeus, coming down to impregnate a maiden who then bears a Hercules, half/man, half/god...or all god, depending on which schism you bought.

When did either Rome or Byzantium act in ways Jesus would have approved? Rome continued persecuting people up to the Second World War when it turned Jews over to death camps. Won what?

Rome won. Rome used Jesus to more effectively rule people....instead of armies they only needed handfuls of priests. Taxes still flowed to Rome, only now they were called tithes and Peter’s Pence. Under Jesus there were a host of new rules under which you could be killed, or imprisoned and have your property confiscated. Under Jesus Rome came to have more prostitutes per capita than any other Christian city...than any other city period. Under Jesus the Bishops of Rome, London and other cities skimmed money from brothels and enriched themselves in countless ways that no one could dispute because to criticize the Church was to break the laws of the land and get yourself killed or exiled.

In the last ten years we’ve seen again how Jesus is used to justify war and murder and rape and theft. Who won?

Won what?



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