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Re: Assyrian Ethnicity
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Monday, October 15 2007, 22:56:39 (CEST)
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I always hear Assyrians rejecting the modern Chaldeans as rightful descendants of the ancient Chaldeans and Babylonians. They insist and accept the fact that the Catholic church revived the named "Chaldeans" to refer to the converts to Catholicism. In other words, "Chaldean" is only for religious and denominational issues. However, if anyone googles Assyrians and whenever the modern Assyrians are mentioned it's always related with the Christian church. It seems like "Assyrian" is being used as a religious name for nestorians and Christians of Iraq in general.

...it is rather amusing that while they readily see the hand of the Europeans behind the "silly" and "erroneous" notion that there are modern Chaldeans, they can't see the same sly Europeans at work in remaking modern Assyrians from Nestorian Christians.

Therefore, it would be fair to argue that Assyrian is just being used as religious name today since one has to be of the Christian faith, in particular Nestorian.

,,,,xactly. The Christians have merely dubbed their Christian traditons "Assyrian"...and continue cursing each other as any number heretical sects have done.

Since that is the case, what does that mean for those Assyrians who do not follow the Christian faith such as Atheists, Agnostics, Muslims, etc? where does that leave them? are they not allowed to identify with that name?

..you got it. Apparently, and for all their talk about Assyrian "genes" and descent and ethnicity, all one has to do to lose his Assyrian genes is change religions...which is especially odd when you consider that changing from the religion of the Assyrians to that of the Jews is the one thing which they claim MAKES them "Assyrian".

what about the Iraqis of Hilah and surrounding areas they proudly call themselves Babylonian, does that mean they can't use it either? Either way, it is crystal clear that Assyrian is being used more as a religious name rather than an ethnic term.

...when you see that word applied in its modern usage, you are merely seeing a Christian sect eager to dress in a political/national disguise because they know they can't very well demand a Christlandia.

There is no wonder as to why historians, scholars and learned men do not see modern Assyrians very important. I have never seen a program on History channel or any other networks talking about ancient Assyrians and todays Christians of Iraq.


...the sad truth is that when we make these absurd claims outside, to the general public, we are patronized, patted on the head for no one wants to bother with the insults that will come their way for poking behind the scenes a little...in all these centuries we have produced one, only one, serious and respected scholar...holder of a doctorate who recently retired from teaching at Franklin and Marshall College and who'se written books on the topic...who also has been honored by having a new college building built and names for him...the man is a true scholar and happens to be a Nestorian...who's studied this very topic and drawn the most reasonable conclusions...and he is called every filthy name imaginable by those who are furious at being exposed.



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