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Re: Christianity vs Islam
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Wednesday, September 30 2009, 2:40:06 (CEST)
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the correct way to compare would be "Christian vs Muslim" but xtians leave no room for that and this forces one to be equally fair. It's either Muslim vs Christian or we can play their game and go for Christianity vs Islam and I think xtianity loses in both cases personally. As you correctly stated, xtianity is evangelical and believes it has a mission to "save" the heathens while Islam has no such requirement. It is not for Muslims to convert people nor is there such thing as "saved" in Islam. The foundation of xtianity is Jesus on the cross and this is the only way for salvation. The New Testament is clear that all their works and preaching is "like filthy rags" if christ died not and rose again. There is no such thing in Islam nor is there an "original sin" eucharist, dying messiah, trinity, man-gods, son of gods, etc. Nevertheless, despite the differences, both religions and all of them in general have the "golden rule" and ask their followers to be good, honest, just, etc.

The difference is that it seems that there have been far more "bad xtians" or "wrong xtians" then "bad Muslims". If we were to combine all the "bad Muslims" and compare them on a scale with "bad xtians" in history, the xtian side would be mcuh heavier. How shameful and how dare these bigots even dare point fingers at others when they are more guilty than others? Our clown on here(rico) as they all do wants to play this secular game and "xtian west" so we cna do so. He wants to compare the west to Islam and that is a bunch of crap because even Muslim countries are all secular. I guess he assumes that naming a country "Islamic republic..." makes it Islamic while the xtian can continue doing his work while hiding behind atheists. Either we compare Islam vs xtianity or secular west or comapare Muslim majority countries with the secular west. I am down for whichever comparison but this is not what they want to do. It is nothing new for these types of xtians to come on here or anywhere and pose as "atheists" and say "fuck religions" while in reality they are prejudice xtians.

He claims that Muslim countries are far behind the west and this can be debated and at the same time there are reasons behind all of this. There are some Muslim countries that are far better off than many western countries. Examples, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, etc. Iraq at one point was well off and one of the best health care systems in the region. All The current "Muslim countries" were at one point colonized and were given independence not long ago. Before they were given "independence by the British, French, etc, the populations were turned into the dark ages by the colonizers and puppet leaders were installed. All of the governments in those countries are more or less of this type. Dictators and corrupt leaders who satisfy their masters while staeling and getting rich off of the resources of the people. Then we get idiots suc as those that coem on here and say "look at ur Muslim countries". There are two guilty parties in this case. I blame Muslims for allowing themselves to be put in such situations and I also blame xtians who colonized those lands and poisoned the brains of the people.

Muslims need to reform themselves and another "golden age". This can be achieved but not as long as they try to monkey the west in everything nor as long as we take our "good and bad" from them. Yes, western countries have some good things but also have many bad things as well. For example, countries such as Germany, Britain, France, Norway, Sweden, USA, etc, have high suicide rates despite all the materials and things which supposedly lead to "happiness and success". In Muslim lands, despite wars, sanctions, dictators, etc, suicide is almost unheard of. Rape, violent crimes, drug and alcohol abuse and social depression is another big thing in many western countries while poorer countries in the east do not suffer much from such. There are good and bad things in both places and all over. When the west was ruled by xtians and churches, it was backwards, behind and most were unable to even write their name while in Muslim lands under Islamic sharia there was sucess, education, technology and more.

Islam can never be changed, reformed nor can things be taken or added but Muslims can reform themselves and get ahead. Living or doing Islam does not mean opression, dicatorships, fanatics, beasting people up for not having beards, hijabs, praying, etc. There is no compulsion in religion as the Quran states so this automatically eliminates what the Taliban does or what we are told it does. There was thread on here about a woman in Sudan that is supposedly at risk for lashing because she wore pants and I like to add something about that. I don't know the details of such case nor does it even sound right for few reasons. First of all, the story is fished around by xtian missionaries who always happen to find some "evil Muslim" when they fail at their "saving" or converting Muslims. Even if such case does exist, so what? Who is the Sudanese government? Does their government speak for Islam or is it even a truly Islamic government? The answers are both "no". But the story still makes no sense beacuse Sudan does not punish people for not wearing hijab or for not praying, fasting, etc. Why would it punish only this one woman for wearing something that is worn usually by men while let the rest go?

It don't make sense at all and I can bet that it is another one of those garbage and bogus cases to show how evil Islam is. Sudan and Iran are two countries which never find rest from western propaganda and media. Both countries happen to be Muslim majority and both countries are not seen "too friendly" or very cooperative with America. In the case of Sudan, there has been a huge effort by xtians with this darfur "genocide" claim and the Sudanese government ahs been accused of all kinds of stuff. This particular case raelly interests me and I have done a lot of research about it and know more than a few Sudanese from Darfur. First of all, Darfur is a region in western Sudan and the people are Muslims. The region consists of many tribes and speak various languages. There has been land dispute and conflict for over 20 years in the area but all of them are Sudanese, Black, and Muslims.

Why after all these years do hear of this suddenly? We are always told the Arabs vs Africans. Who are the "Arabs" of Sudan? Are they white? or outsiders? of course not. Those called "Arabs" are black Sudanese who speak Arabic but they are still Sudanese. The media never show us the president of Sudan but always show us Ahmedinijad, Qadafi, Asad, etc. Why? Because he is supposed to be an "Arab" and it is propaganda to show racism. Arab is not a color nor an ethnic purity. It is simply a language and anyone who speaks Arabic as his/her first language can be an Arab. There are Egyptian xtians, Lebanese and even Iraq xtians who identify as Arabs. Many Chaldeans are a prime example of that. It is simply language and nothing more. There are other factors to Sudan that need mentioning.

Darfur is rich in uranium and oil. The Sudanese govt has not been cooperating with the U.S and this is another factor and this is the key behind all this. Unlike other countries which just bow down and say "yes sir" to the west, Sudan is not so and neither is Iran. These are two countries in the Muslim wolrd where their governments are not puppets as the rest are. There is no genocide in Darfur and the govt of Sudan sure as heck has nothing to do with it. It is tribal conflict over land and nothing more. The claims that there are rapes, genocide and over 400,000 have died are all mythical just as santa is a myth.

Xtian propaganda is nothing old. Just as the "13 year old Somali woman was murdered by Muslim extremists" according to amnesty international and the entire story is false. The girl was not 13 nor was she murdered by "extremists" but was rather a 23 year old woman who kileed her husband to marry her lover. She was the murderer and was executed because she was guilty of murder. Any story fished around by propaganda mashines can be doubted and disregarded. Anyone who throws acid into the face of a woman, murders, etc is simply a criminal and not "Islamic". Xtian propaganda is boring and old but today they are at it more than ever since their religion is on the decline while Islam despite all the negativity against it is still growing. Xtianity is only the largest religion by stats because of the focrced conversions and other bad things xtians did. However, Islam is larger in lands that never saw a Muslim invasion and it is the afstest growing religion in the west and worldwide according to western sources.

Tartars, Turkic peoples were known as barbarians and were conquerers of Muslim lands yet accepted Islam and so did many Mongols. Such people became Muslim and went on to create the Seljuk, Ottoman and other great empires. They went from barbarians to the opposite while xtians became worse after xtianity. Look at the Romans and how blood thirsty they were after xtianity



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