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Re: From KHOYADA
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Saturday, February 23 2008, 20:00:40 (CET)
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Talall: How the area was called ‘Kurdistan’ in fact that the Assyrian people considered the region historically an Assyrian Land and see themselves the real owners, what you make of it?

Qarah Daghi: We must go back in time historically, and try to know how such a term; ‘Kurdistan’ appeared for the first time. – “As far as I personally remember, since then the terminology spread in the political dictionary of the area – I think, the Kurds never invented such a terminology of the word Kurdistan. It is clear that ‘Kurdistan’ terminology appeared after WW I, as it appeared for the first time in the records of the Sevres Treaty( 10 August 1920- between the Ottoman Empire and the Allies)


...and I believe that he's mistaken...maps older than 1920 clearly show "Kurdistan"...but I'll check. But remember, there was once no Israel...not for a thousand years and more...there was also no United States for 10,000 years until a few Europeans stole it...the issue isn't who has a "right", based on anything...the issue is who has the MIGHT. It's by force that nations are created..no one has ever said to an invading host, "welcome, name it what you want and I'll just be a minority". Discussions of who is right have no meaning in internatioonal law and politics...the United States had no right of any kind, not moral or legal or even practical to invade Iraq...but they did it and they're getting away with it.


I do believe that it is not right and or there is no privilege to any Kurdish movement in Iraq to have a monopoly on Kurdistan. Kurdistan, as it is known is a common home for several peoples, for the Kurds and the Assyrians which is a historical matter.


...as an ideal thing, he's correct. But someone has to dominate...someone gets to name the country, and since the Kurds have done the heavy lifting and have been fighting, actually fighting, for decades and now find that they are dominant, it is foolish to expect them to hand it over to anyone...all they need do, which not even America ever did, is to promise equal protection under the law to any citizen of the country..and this new country is called Kurdistan...


It is possible that the Assyrians were found there for thousands of years and it is possible even before the Kurds. Personally, I believe that the Assyrians (in Kurdistan) have all the right to have an equal and a complete right in the land.

....you need to specifiy for me what he means by "right to the land". Do you have a "right to the land" in California.,...or Illinois? What "right" is he referrring to? Is it merely property rights...that if you buy a plot of land you have as much right to your property as anyone else?


And it is not right to think how some Kurds think, that they are above or better than the Assyrians.

...this is his opinion. He's welcome to it...but it's not specific enough to comment on. Obviously people feel "above" other people...obviously YOU do...so what's the real issue?

Or even better than the Turcomans who settled in the area since the days of the Ottoman Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent (1520-1566) and in general, any people inhabit any given area should become part of that area..

....as far as anyone has said, the people in Kurdistan are all a PART of Kurdistan...just as Apache natives are a PART of the United States..but they can never expect "special guarantees" or their own "nation" as a result of being a part of the whole. In a democracy no one gets special rights..no one is above the law...the Assyrians and everyne else in Kurdistan can ask for and expect as a matter of fair play EQUAL rights....that doesn't mean that since Kuds took the right to NAME their country...Assyrians have an 'equal right" to be GIVEN a land to name their own...they have every right to SEIZE any land on earth they want, including Kurdistan, New York or Jamiaca..that is indeed their RIGHT, as members of the international community ruled by international law which is still "might makes right"...but they have no right to expect or demand anything be GIVEN to them. Making such demands is, alas, the very definition of sedition..and sedition is a crime in any country and any Assyrian making such claims will be terated as a criminal, plain and simple..as he would in any country on earth...ask America.



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