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Re: Israel-Palestine – what is the U.S. national interest? by Ralph
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Nader got the timeline wrong: "· Nov. 4: Israel killed a mentally ill Palestinian walking near the Israeli-imposed “no-go zone” inside the Gaza Strip -- an event that triggered a rocket from Gaza into southern Israel, which did not cause any deaths or injuries.

· Nov. 8: Four Israeli military tanks and a bulldozer entered Gaza, fatally shooting a 13-year-old boy who had been playing soccer by his family’s house.

· Nov. 10: In retaliation, two rockets were fired from Gaza into southern Israel, and an anti-tank missile injured four soldiers, when it hit an Israeli army jeep that had crossed over into the territory. Meanwhile, the Palestinian Center for Human Rights reported the killing of five more Palestinians, four of whom were civilians – including two soccer players age 16 and 17 and two young men (18 and 19) who ran to the scene. Forty-nine others were wounded, including 10 children.

· Nov. 11: Amid talks of a truce, six more Palestinians (all but one were civilians) were wounded and another was killed by both air strikes and troops on the ground.

· Nov. 12: With Israeli air strikes continuing, two rockets from Gaza hit Israel.

· Nov. 13: After two mid-afternoon air strikes, news services announced a truce had been agreed-upon.

· Nov. 14: Israel ignored the nascent truce and assassinated Hamas military chief Ahmad al-Jabari. (It is questionable whether Israeli officials ever really wanted a truce. As Phyllis Bennis from the Institute for Policy Studies wrote in The Nation: “Earlier this year, on the third anniversary of the Gaza assault of 2008/9, Israeli Army Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz told Army Radio that Israel will need to attack Gaza again soon, to restore what he called its power of ‘deterrence.’ He said the assault must be ‘swift and painful,’ concluding, ‘we will act when the conditions are right.’ Perhaps this was his chosen moment.”)

A fact not known by most Americans, who see Jabari as merely a leader of “terrorists,” is that Israeli activist Gershon Baskin confirmed that Jabari was engaged in peace settlement negotiations with Israel. In fact, he was due to send Hamas’ version of a draft agreement to Baskin on the Wednesday evening before he was killed. It’s worth asking: Did Israel intend to torpedo those efforts?

The rest of the story is tragic history. Jabari’s killing triggered Operation Pillar of Defense, and it continues to unfold."



Yes, America is the shotcaller, especially since the '67 Six-Day War Israel became a closer ally, in a triangle which consisted of Israel, Turkey and Iran, as America's watchdogs in the Mid-East.

In Israel they open the archives every thirty years, so in 1978 a group of young historians and scholars were given access to survey the historical record since the inception of the nation: They are known as the "new historians", among them are Benny Morris (who's completely changed his findings and has taken refuge in his hatred of Arabs), and his polar opposite, Ilan Pappe, who diligently wrote about the ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Arabs of Palestine, describing in great detail (this is before the Nazi Holocaust)how these atheist European Jews who owned only 12% of the land in Palestine, imported and introduced terrorism, by blowing up markets full of women and children, planting bombs on buses, the most known atrocity is the bombing of the King David Hotel only because white Englishmen were killed -- the non-white workers weren't even mentioned, and in many Zionist circles this act of terror is celebrated. They, from the start, refused to abide by any UN Resolutions, even the one that gave them more than half of Palestine. Then came Zev Jabotinsky, the proto-fascist and friend to Netanyahu's father, who's vision was Eretz-Israel, the land that has no distinct borders and it keeps encroaching illegally on Palestinian land. The fishermen of Gaza can only go out three miles to fish, so what they get is shit... but that's not all, according to one Israeli: "Israel’s sea border is twelve miles out, and Gaza’s is only three. They’ve only got those three miles, and that’s because of one reason, which is that Israel wants its gas, and there’s an offshore drilling rig something like three and a half miles out facing the Gaza Strip, which should be Palestinian, except that it’s ours… the Navy Special Forces unit provides security for the rig. A bird comes near the area, they shoot it. There’s an insane amount of security for that thing. One time there were Egyptian fishing nets over the three-mile limit, and we dealt with them. A total disaster."

Then Finkelstien exposed how Jewish organisations under the guise of compensation for Holocaust survivors (SHOAH in Hebrew), ended up exploiting European countries' banks and cheated both the banks with bogus amounts of compensation (documented in Finkelstein's "The Holocaust Indusry), and the victims like Finkelstein's parents, both survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau and Maidanek, being one of thousands of Jews who survived the unimaginable hell of the Nazi camps, while "huksters", as Finkelstein accurately describes them or the term "freier" is something I've noticed with not all Jews, but certainly Israelis, especially since for 15 years I went to school with and lived in a Jewish neighborhood, with many Israelis, whom by the way, the American Jews disliked, just as I disliked the Iranians and Assyrians who had more in common with the Israelis, than they did with me.

This is an excerpt from an article from Haaretz http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/thou-shalt-not-be-a-freier-1.211247

"'Don't be a freier' is practically the 11th commandment of the Israeli," wrote Haaretz's Benny Ziffer in 2006. How has such a great fear of being a freier developed in Israel, of all places? Bloch explains that this is due, among other reasons, to a desire to be free of the image of the Jew in exile. She says there are five attributes of Israeli character that come together to create the culture of "just don't be a freier": a particularly strong ego and sense of honor, avoidance of law and rules, individualism without responsibility, competition and machismo. There are some people, she adds, who are prepared to kill in order not to come out as freiers. She cites examples of murders for purely negligible reasons, like a fight over dogs or an argument over a lounge chair on the beach."


America may be calling the shots and providing the guns and bullets, but the Israelis are are the ones aiming and firing the weapons, maiming and blowing up children, and they certainly are no "freiers", according to critics from their own tribe - just as we critique our own. They made a pact with the devil: The Christian Zionists who have projected the professed clash of civilizations to bring about the End Times by casting Jews as God's "Chosen Children" who must return to the "Promised Land" and build the Temple, and in this drama, the antagonist or "anti-Christ" are the Muslims, specifically, the Palestinians, whom the backward-ass, shit-kicking, ex-dope-sniffing, recovering-meth-smoking, former pussy-selling Born Again Cult hustlers don't even know that close to a quarter of Palestinians are Christians. But no matter, they want the violence, the maiming and massacring of helpless children because they are the "devil's children...and if them grow up them will blow up!" And the Jews are their to empty the Holy Land of the Infidels (a Christian term projected negatively to Muslims), and with the last shot of bullet and the last drop of blood, Jesus will arrive and take with him those who, like my late Grandmother who "married God" and stopped having romantic relations with my Grandfather, who then each time when asked to go hire a cleaning lady, he'd come home with a prostitute and then act senile. Yes, the followers of Christ go to heaven and Jews who don't convert, open up a deli in Hell.

After reading Finkelstein, Pappe, Sand, Chomsky, and the folks at Mondoweiss, all of whom are Jewish, all very astute about Jewish history AND the history of Imperialism, especially the English to the American Empires, all of them conclude that there is no uniqueness to Jewish suffering. Suffering is unique when it happens to any living, breathing being. If I told someone that my family wrote a book about me being a unique person, "chosen" by God and instructed to make homeless another people through terror and force and disguise my guilt by a fairy tale, or mere denial, or just pure hate, I'd be a criminal by any rational evaluation.

I don't see how Israeli's can deal with being assholes, with 80-90% supporting the killing of a besieged people, with no army, no navy, no air force, no tanks, just a some Fajr and Qassam rockets which, by the way, they lessened the TNT in the FAJR rockets so that they could travel further and attempt to reach Tel Aviv... They have no fire power.. 160 dead Gazans, 30 or so dead children... and what, 5 Israelis died from an asthma attack! They killed journalists, they would have killed a lot more Gazans like during Cast Lead when they massacred 1300 mostly civilians, a third of them children, but this time there were international journalists in the strip...and they still targeted reporters, killing three:

"Two cameramen working for al-Aqsa TV were killed in their car not far from Gaza City's Shifa hospital around 6 p.m. Tuesday evening. Their car was reportedly marked with neon letters spelling "TV," Reuters reported.

An educational programming director for the al-Quds channel, who was identified in early reports as Mohamed Abu Aisha, director of the private Al-Quds' Educational Radio, was also killed in his car in central Gaza, the Associated Press reported."

So when Israelis cry why does the world hate us, there's a whole list documented by brave individuals with a conscience within their own society like Gideon Levy, Amira Hass, Ilan Pappe; and other Jews living abroad like the late Tony Judt, Arno Joseph Mayer, and of course, Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein, and a number writers like Philip Weiss and Adam Horowitz co-editors of Mondoweiss: http://mondoweiss.net/ who are breaking the "victim" myth and calling for accountability from the American Jewish public and Jewish organisations who are wholeheartedly behind any act, no matter how atrocious, that Israel executes... because "we suffered". Twenty million Congolese suffered in the same century as did 6 million Jews, and what about the 5 million others who were Roma (Gypsies), communists, anarchists, Catholics, Jehovah's Witness, homosexual, disabled, mentally challenged, Russian, Polish,.. nobody mentions them. And what about Israel's role in supporting Apartheid South Africa, or the selling of arms to Guatemala's death squads that engaged in a genocide of the Maya Indians.

I don't think Israeli's feel any guilt. They wrote the lie, they sold the lie, and they live the lie... they're no freier... The victims of the Holocaust are used to siphon money and silent dissent... leaving the victims exploited, and the victims of Palestine destitute.. while the peddlers of other people's pain and suffering skip to the bank to cash a check that doesn't belong to them... while merrily singing "There's no business like Shoah business."



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