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Re: Tatian the Assyrian
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Sunday, October 28 2007, 22:02:06 (CET)
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JUMBLAT wrote:
>Dr. Pancho wrote :
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>" Tatian was not Assyrian...neither was that other Greek, Lucian...and neither did Tatian even say "I was born in the land of the Assyrians"...but even if he had...I can be born in the land of the Aztecs and not be ethnically Aztec....as all our Assyrians insist that being born in the land of the British doesn't make then British by ethnicity...and please, leave church people out of it...who can trust the intellectual integrity of people who maintain they will live on clouds forever...or peddle Shrouds of Turin...please. "
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>Nobody put you a JUDGE to the Assyrian nation

...in the above post titled "Herodotus" I give a source fopr this...calm down.

, your experience is making SCULPTURES no more or less,


..that's how much you know...what's yours? I'm merely reading and posting...I notice you can't seem to address the issues raised but go off on tangents each time.

don't try to be a HISTORIAN to us in one hand

...neither do I. I merely bring here the writings of real historians...not the fools we produce. I do reserve the right to think and reason about what I read...same as you could do...and I wish you would instead of scolding people for reading, writing and thinking.

, then if we say that TATIAN and LUCIAN are ASSYRIANS, we are not the one who imposed on them ASSYRIANISM

..it isn't enough for you to "say" what is...you have to back it up with some creditable sources...NOT your manuscripts either. I'm not the one saying Tatian and the other Greeks aren't Assyrian.

, for a simple reason we were not born at that time, but they are who claimed to be borne in ASSYRIA and are ASSYRIANS.

...like I said...I can be born in China without BEING Chinese...or a descendant of Genghis Khan...you could have been born in "the land of the Navajo" without BEING a native American...that region was known to be ancient Assyria...by everyone...especially Christians and Jews who read about it in their bible...therefore to be "born" in that land would make you "Assyrian" the same way being "born in the land of the Aztecs" would make you an Aztec...only by georaphical location or land of birth and NOT by ethnicity or derivation...is it so difficult to understand this? Any Spaniard moving his family to "Assyria" could say of his children that they born "in the land of the Assyrians"...but it wouldn't make them Assyrians. This argument doesn't require historians...just think about it a little will ya?
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>If you think, that our people how much smart will be , CAN'T AND WILL NOT make these people to write about them to be ASSYRIANS, what they will gain from a poor nation like us?

...as I said and Dr Joseph shows, the people themselves didn't refer to themselves AS Assyrians...they used that geographical NAME to describe their churches or armies etc. The Euros who decided we were the direct descendants of the ancients were mistaken, pure and simple...only after that did we go crazy for BEING Assyrians. Modern Assyriologists are not competant to discuss our modern statues and names....it is not their area of study...some like Parpola have a private yen to prove we invented Christianity...and several may be intimidated into believing what we tell them...because they don't want to hurt our hurt feelings...but this has nothing to do with scholarship...many people deny and doubt that we are what we say we are...
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>And I never said anything about the SHROUD OF TURIN , I spoke about my and your ASSYRIANISM that you deny in one hand and on the other proud of it to create SCULPTURES,

...I told you...anyone can FEEL Assyrian...which to me means the ancients only...there's no need to go on about BLOOD and direct descent, two ridiculous impossibilities...being Assyrian isn't somehting you're born with..it's something you WORK towards...in thats ense, I am "Assyrian"...but not in the way you mean.

please use your mind and don't make a fool person from a very bright and prudent and thank you !

...how did I make a fool of you?



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