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Re: The Assyrian Logic VS The Assyrian Identity
Posted by Mancho (Guest) - Thursday, September 20 2007, 7:39:29 (CEST)
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Pancho, or is it "pancho"?

“My only interest in it is to place it in proper perspective...”

*** Proper perspective? From who’s point of view?

“I'm concerned Christianity has been a disaster, not just for us, but for almost everyone else in the world who was not Christian..including many, many other Christians.”

*** True, but that’s only because of ignorance. Had people not been ignorant, they would have behaved differently. The proof for that? Not every Christian is/has been a demon.

“Also it's imperative to shoot down every argument made that we are the indigenous people of Iraq, as verses anyone else in Iraq...and to refute, with evidence and reasoning, any claim to direct ancestry from Ashurbanipal etc. “

*** Evidence? You mean “your” (whatever his name is) book's "evidence"? Only Fools would think that “a book”, no matter how scholarly, written by someone, is the FINAL answer to an issue like that. (Show some reasoned logic and intelligence. Don’t people like you ever LEARN that there is no absolute truth, because truth ALWAYS changes?

“the ones who were real Assyrians...who spoke and wrote an Assyrian language and not the Aramaic one we speak.”

***Language EVOLVES just like everything else, and Aramaic EVOLVED from the Assyrian language, just like the Assyrian language evolved from the Akkadian, the Akkadian from the Sumerian and so on.. .

Furthermore, based on your logic, the English people today are not English, because they do not speak the same language English people spoke during the times of Shakespeare or prior to his time…? You need a lesson in logic boy…

“My connection to it is not genetic or biological.”

***How in Ashur’s Name can you make a silly statement like that? Was the DNA testing done in your head? While floating on a cloud?

“The Assyrian monuments and sculpture I made were all ASSYRIAN and not Christian. It remains now to create other Bet-Nahrain based sculpture and take it out into the world....to begin to make the Assyrian heritage, the real one and not this Christian Mongolid Idiot thing we're plagued with, a part of the mainstream culture...or at least begin the process.”

*** Good on you. I hope you will do that with your full heart’s passion to awaken our nation to it’s TRUE ASSYRIAN SELF and not as a means to tell them they are a NOBODY.

“We are not a nation but a gaggle of religious sects....our behavior confirms that in every way”

***EVERY nation on the planet is made of religious sects, and we, my dear friend, are no different. The reason why we behave the way we do is because: unlike other nations, we do not have our own country. The highest institution we have and have had for a long time has been religious; that is why religion is uppermost in the general Assyrian mind... Get it?

PLUS! Religion was the reason we glued to each other and survived, despite the horrendous circumstances we went through. Only fools don’t see that. Now that we are here safe and sound (with the help of religion), it is time for our people to take the next step and see themselves as Ashuraye FIRST… That will be achieved by building on what we have and awakening through education… NOT by attempting to DESTROY our character…

Maybe we first need to take a course in logic…



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