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Re: The Islamic Societies are not IMMUNE with adultery of all kinds!
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Thursday, November 22 2007, 15:40:25 (CET)
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Adultery and fornification exists every where since people have choices to make. However, let's take a practicing Muslim wgo has his beard and strives to live according to Islam, and bring the average practicing Christian, the number will not even be close. Evidence shows the practicing Muslims as far ahead of practicing Christians. I mean come on get real man, a Muslim who prays his five daily salaats at the mosque, who fasts, lives and ponders on the Quran and Sunnah is gonna find it impossible to do adultery, fornicating or any other major sins. Yes there are adultery cases in Islamic societies as well, but the number is far lower than every where else. There are millions of Muslims outside of the Islamic lands, there is no pressure on them nor is there any fear, how come they still stay true to their deen?

Don't be ridicilous and bring me cases of people who don't even live according to Islam. I know people who don't pray, don't follow even the basics of Islam, yet call themselves "Muslim" and then I also know people who not only call themselves Muslims, but actually live it and do it, and it's gonna be very rare to find one of those who commits adulery, fornicates, rapes, or does any other gross act. As Muhammad(pbuh) said about the daily salaat the Muslim has to perform, "his example is like a person who showers five times a day, how much room will there be for filth?" the answer is nothing, and the same goes for a person who practices Islam and strives hard, it will be damn near impossible to do those filthy things. I have been a Muslim for almost 3 years now and actually been practicing for almost a full year, and I must say with all humilty not only people but I myself can see the impact it has had on me and how I better myself daily. It is a mind think and if a person does not care and does not practice what he/she is suppose to, it will be easy to be bad, but if one does what is right, we will come to know that the person is good.

There are millions of Muslims who have no pressure on them nor any fear, yet they don't do those things. We don't fear anyone but Allah. If I really wanted to, I could committ adultery or have a girlfriend secretely and no one would ever know, but it is not about people but it is the fact that God the almighty knows and sees it all, and it is him that we worship and obey his will.

A Muslim ="one who submitts totally to the will of Allah". So a person who has truly surrendered to the Creator will find it easy over come those bad things and it becomes easier and better each day, but the key to the whole success is "performing" "striving"(jihad) and pure intent.

So, please don't be stupid, we know that there are people who do adukltery, drink or do whatever else all over the world. Humans have choice which is given by God and we have this "choice" until our last breath that we take. It is up to the person to do what is right. Muslims who truly are Muslims will be the same whether in the west or in a Islamic society, and the hypocrites will be the same as well whether in the west or in an Islamic society. Fortunately, in the case for Muslims, it is not difficult to spot such hypocrites because their conduct, actions and behavior poroves it all. In most cases such people come from ignorant back grounds and know nothing of Islam. I had Turkish friends who fornicated it all the time, they called themselves "Muslims" yet knew not even what "ISLAM" means, and it is hardly surprising to see where the issue lies. On the other hand, when you got pastors, priests and learned and practicing church going people doing those things, there is a huge problem.

The average "born again" Christian brags and tells us how he has the "holy ghost" in his heart and it prevents him from doing wrong, yet at the same time the same person is caught with his pants down at a strip club, a bar, with a prostitute, caught in a sex scandal, a gay scandal, a money fraud or other digusting things. We Muslims don't make claims of some weird "holy ghost" inside us, yet turn around and do things that even non religious people don't do sometimes. That is the whole point of the Muslim male who is encouraged by the Sunnah to grown out his beard and keep it nicely maintained. One can always recognize a Muslim by his beard, and how hard is it to recognize such a person inside a strip club, or having sex with a prostitute. If real Muslims don't even hug women or shake hands with them, how can they even get caught up in such situations.

Islam has the tools and the cures for all problems, whether it racism, adultery, econimc success, socially, and everything else. It is just up to the person to do so and be willing to "surrender to the Creator".

Even in western societies Muslims have the lowest alcoholic rates, the lowest adultery/fornification rate, murder rate, crime rate, social depression rate, drug abuse rate, lowest gambling rate, but, on the other hand, they have the highest charity rate in western communities. What is keeping the Muslims in the west from takingm off their hijabs, shaving of their beards and imitating others? and what is the reason for the various educated, rich and spoiled wesstern men and women for embracing Islam? In the U.S. alone between 400 to 500 people accept Islam daily and that is only what is reported across the registered and major mosques, why are they turning to a faith that is "horrible" and "abusive"? the answer is simple, they seek knowledge and they research just as the Quran challenges mankind to do.

So, it is not a secret that there are people who commit adultery in all nations and there are also sometimes better Muslims in the west than there is in the Middle Est where many had forgotten or never even knew Islam. Keep in mind Islam is not like other religions where one inherits faith from parents and just goes with it. Every Muslim has to seek knowledge for him/herself and study Islam and compare it. One is not truly a Muslim just because one claims to be born into it or because some one has the name "Muhammad" or "Abdullhah". My name can be "Peter" or "Robert" and I can be a Muslim and even more valid than someone who is ignorant of it, yet has the name "Muhammad".

No Muslim and no human, period, should just follow something blindly. God challenges us to seek knowledge, investigate, compare with other things. So how can it be based on fear when it challenges and encourages both men and women to learn and study. I have yet seen a "way" or a system or even another religion that offers as much as Islam, and it is most simple and basics. "La ilaha il Allah" none to be worshipped except the ONE" and everything else comes from there. I hope this helps clear up some things.



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