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Posted by pancho (Guest) - Friday, November 16 2007, 20:41:14 (CET)
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>In order, to reply to you STOOGE #0 , I will say as it was said by me always that in the Christian religion there are two type of CHRISTIANS,

...sorry. So long as you lump all Muslims into one stereotype, that's what will be done with you. No one who isn't your kind of Christian, who suffers from the violence of people who would argue with YOU that they are the REAL Christians..is at all concerned with how you want to break Christians down into various categories...There are Sufis who are as pacifistic as one could want as well as millions of Muslims who never bothered anyone...all you do is take a few of the worst examples and try to tell us they are typical....so long as you don't distinguish between Muslims I won't make any distinction between Christians...right now America sees itself as a Christian country, and one which YOU keep praising....so that what is true is true; No religion has brought more violence and bloodshed to the world than Christianity....none.


the first those who claim to be Christians and the second are those who take CHRISTIANITY seriously that in one hand , and on the other the situation in ISLAM is quiet deferent, in ISLAM , you are a GOOD MUSLIM,if you say the SHAHADA, if you pray five times a day , pay your ZAKAT, HAVE A FEAST, and VISIT MECCA/AL-HAJ.

....you are a fool.
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>Now , there is no one single CHRISTIAN country lead by a PATRIARCH or POPE , while ISLAM should have the SHARI3A as the basic of the country legislature, furthermore that ISLAM is the official religious of the country's constitution , while Christian countries is headed by SECULAR PEOPLE ,if these people did any thing they are the one to blame and not their RELIGION AFFILIATIONS which has nothing to do with government policy.

...that Christian countries are secular isn't due to Christianity....for most of its bloody career Christianity ruled with an iron hand with its own Sharia law....and if Bush could have his way there'd be Sharia Law in America....people like you can take no credit for America's secular society....which is being attacked precisely by Christians like you.
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>In ISLAM , any wrong policy like discrimination, intimidations , usurpation and occupation and slaughtering the people NOT the government is only responsible which it is , BUT ISLAM AS A WHOLE IS RESPONSIBLE too.

...you are a fool.
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>The ASSYRIANS and as CHRISTIANS were persecuted a lot in the course of history of ISLAM , but the recent one is about 71 years ago ( 1933 ) when the IRAQI government massacred our people .

..it did not. What happened at Semele was retaliation for the Assyrians who refused to lay down their arms, who attacked and killed Muslim merchants, who crossed the borders illegally into Syria and then wandered back again engaging in a battle with the nation's army which wanted to disarm them...no group of men can wander any Christian country, armed, crossing borders as they feel free to, shoot inncoent merchants and NOT expect retaliation. The 300 people killed by the army at Semele was indeed a tragedy...but it wasn't the army which brought the action on...had the refugee Assyrians agreed, as most of them did, to settle down in their new homes, provided to them as refugees when they ran for their lives, there would have been no Semele...had the Iraqis wanted to "massacre" Assyrians they would have wiped out the entire village and gone after every last Christian in all the surrounding vilages...instead they sent a strong message that further armed resistance and disruptions would be met with this sort of thing...which Christian countries have done all the time..the most recent example being when the people of Iraq were attacked for something 19 Saudi and Egyptians did...a case where an entire populace was targeted for "collective punishmment", who'd absolutely nothing to deserve it.
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>In conclusion, the one OCCUPIED IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN are not the CHRISTIANS , but the AMERICAN government which went as a secular government after these TERRORIST ISLAMIC elements,

...America invoked God and Jesus whenit went...Bush called the war a Crusade before being spun stupid...we all know America is a Christian country...they say it all the time. Let's see you tell them differently.

and do you think I agree , my answer will be NO and YES, no to humiliate and devastate our beloved country of IRAQ in one hand and YES to go after these terrorists to stop them from turning our world to unsafe place to live that we spend over 3 hour time with a lot of headaches to travel by a plane.


..there were no Iraqi terrosists...none and never. As far as earlier plane hijackings those were done in retaliation for the crime of creating Isarel to appease their own guilty Christian conscience for what they did to six million Jews. people WILL fight back as best they can...ask Gearge Washington who was also a terrosists and would have been hanged without trial if the British ever caught him...Iraq didn't do a thing to deserve this...but that never stopped a Christian.

>NOTE: in the case of AFGHANISTAN , I think the AMERICANS DID A NOBEL JOB, by erasing that TALIBAN government which turned the people of AFGHANISTAN to over 500 years back , these are the savage people who blew up the BODHA'S ARTIFACTS which were standing there over a thousand year and we don't know how many MESOPOTAMIAN artifacts ruined so far which are very old and important .

...Osmama was an American stooge....the United States routinely backs and implants people who will do its bidding...and the last thing the United States wanted in the Mid East was a successful secular society..it's the United States that put the mullahs in charge in Iran and backed the Taliban and Saddam too...they played the same game for years in Latin America where they preferred dictators and even allowed the communists to grow because they could then use them as apretext to "protect" the resources they were stealing as well as themselves.

..Iraqis protected the artifacts for decades and kept the Kurds from seazing Kurdistan..it was thanks to the United Christian States that this devastation was brought to Iraq and Kurdistan ceated...and now the stage has been set with enough justified anger that these wars will speard and consume the region...which is exatcly what Bush wanted.



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