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Re: comparison
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Tuesday, May 13 2008, 8:24:26 (CEST)
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You are exactly right because there was no Christianity in the time of Jesus nor was it likely that a "Messiah" would be calling out to Gentiles(non-Jews). If Jesus did invite any gentile to follow his religion, it would mean circumcision, monotheism and strict upholding of the Torah. In other words, they would have become "Jews". It is recorded in various sources that the "Jesus Movement" in Jereusalem consisted of a group of die hard Jews who were ready to die for the rule of God and refuse Roman occupation. It is confirmed and all sources agree, including Paul in his letters states that these people were upholders of the Torah. There is an evident difference between "Christianity" and the movement of Jesus(pbuh) of which James the Just(the brother of Jesus) was the leader. If these Christians who claim to be Assyrians today mean that they were the first to accept the religion of Jesus, that would make them Jews and they would have to follow the rules of the Torah.

But they know that is not thye case and they have been hating Jews for almost 2,000 years and accusing them of murder. They mean that they became "Christians" and this was the religion of Paul and it did not start in Jerusalem, nor was it the religion of the followers of Jesus, but it is a totally differen't religion. When we say Christianity and Jesus, we are talking two complete differen't subjects. They were either the first to convert to "Christianity" and even this is not true, or they were the first to embrace the religion o0f Jesus and this would make them Jews. There is only one choice here but they are both not true because it was Jews who were the followers of Jesus, "Messiah" is strictly a Hebrew thing and lies of these Christians who call themselves "Assyrians" just simply don't match up.

The claim that they were the first to convert to Christianity is not supported and they surely were not the first to convert to the religion of Jesus; they didn't even convert to the religion of Jesus or else they would have been Jews like "James the Just" and they would have been upholding the Torah but that is not the case. So you are correct one more time and many people are unaware of this and do not know the diffrence between the "Movement of Jesus" and the religion of "Christianity" which is product of Rome. It was first Paul who started it all and it was his people that were called "Christians". They were not called Christians in Palestine but in Antioch and it was the followers of Paul whom were Greek-Roman pagans and Hellenized Jews within the Roman world. It was not applied or used by the followers of Jesus in Jerusalem.

The smartest Christian in my opinion was the Protestant father Martin Luther who asked why the "letter of James" is still in the Bible when James and Paul were enemies. Christians have been trying to cover up the conflict between Paul and James and they have been trying to reunite the two for almost 2,000 years. Martin Luther wanted the book of James thrown out of the Bible and he had good reasons for that. The Protestants bravely threw 7 other books out of their Bible and debated the book of James many times throughout history. Christians are dreaming when they try to ignore to conflict between Paul and James. The followers of Jesus in Jerusalem had sworn not to eat and drink until they killed "Paul the Liar" as they called him. When they attacked him and nearly killed him, it was Roman soldiers that rescued him and that is strange unless he was a Roman agent just as this is the view of many. The two communities were definetly not friends nor on the same page.

the movement of Jesus which was headed by James were strict Jews like their ancastors who were pious upholders of monotheism and the Torah while Paul was preaching a totally differen't religion to a Roman-Greek audience in the Hellenized world. What that Christians have done is steal a Jewish Rabbi and Messiah who came to his own people and have turned him into a world icon. They have created a death cult around him and have been using Christianity as a tool for political reasons and to rule as an empire while drooling over a cheap and cowardly salvation based on someone else having paid the price. This is "slander" and one could be sued for that but how else can George Bush, his rednecks and the rest of the 2 billion Christians go live on a cloud forever without a murder of the Jewish rabbi? This is not my own opinion but this is the foundation of Christianity. There is no Christianity without crucifixion and there is no happiness or success without the crucifixion of Jesus(as).

One doesnt have to ask me about my opinion or belief about the crucifixion of story because I don't call it a "crucifixion" but rather a "cruci-fiction". "Fiction" is the key word but the Christian world will never stop its crusades and holy wars against the infidels until we all bow down to the man whom they call "Jesus" who is copied and stoled from the Children of Israel and turned into to master of a empire which wishes to enslave everyone and rule the earth. The Christian dogmas have to be drilled into a child's head early on and children have to be intimidated and brainwashed in order to believe the unique doctrines of Christianity. Furthermore, they only make sense if one follows along blindly and does what I was always told and that is to avoid too many questions and talking to others because it will "confuse you" and one will catch a "demon" but this demon was within Christianity the religion which was forced on me by family tradition. Much thanks to Allah(swt) for having guided me to the straight path and I was born Muslim and will die a Muslim, InshaAllah.



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