The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

=> Re: speaking of maps...

Re: speaking of maps...
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Monday, February 27 2012, 23:40:49 (UTC)
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Ashur wrote:
>LOL!!! Actually Assyria is on the map

...yes, and it is put there by a Euro...the same people who invented modern Chaldeans and Assyrians...you are proving OUR point!


...John Speed maps but you count that as false history or what he believed. He must have been right...never doubted Kurdish history BTW...just not in Iraq.

...we'll put your one lame map against a noted scholar who is still alive and who has the honor of having an International Studies Building named after him...and has published, not printed, two books by a prestigious publishing firm, Brill...which has been publishing academic and scholarly works for over THREE HUNDRED YEARS!

You are next to us in Iran...Mr.Pancho from Mexico! I could not find where you were posting your new thread so i jumped on this one. Anyways, how can one take you seriously or even honest if you are a fake? Let me go back...again. We spoke and debated over a year ago and you told me your Assyrian who is going to school in Georgia...right? You even said that you were a Christian who converted to Islam...through a room mate. So what I'm getting to is you were set and almost 100% sure that Islam was the way to go...AS A MATTER OF FACT YOU WERE TRYING TO CONVERT ME!!!LOL!!! Now you are Atheist...that quick! My problem isnt your religious status but rather your mindset. You are obviously very sketchy and still have much to learn about religion and history.

...no, you have everything to learn from all sources BUT the bible...which is all you've read apparently.

You cant be so quick to state your OPINIONS as facts...especially since you ask for so much proof from us but yet only provide John Joseph as your proof.


..."only"...."only"? You mean if we had ten books you'd be convinced? You only have ONE map, and it's 400 years old AND by a Euro, which only proves our point that you were INVENTED by Euros...I mean, thanks for making our case for us!

Not only that but you now call yourself Pancho and have a Mexican flag under your name...

...what a jackass you are.

I thought you were Assyrian or Kurd or Aramean...which one is it? You call me a crazy conspiracy theorist but you give me every right. Something is obviously not right here but pin pointing your agenda and what your goal is could be one of many things but you are with no doubt trying to destroy our Assyrian name but doing it in a cowardly fashion.

...we told you...you were invented by Euros, we didn't know about Speed and how he too helped invent you, but thanks. You will soon see the article where we quote the sources...then you can argue with them.


If you believe in what you are stating then take it with the scholars that you doubt...it shouldnt be difficult since we have technology. You guys keep quoting Wigram but truly never read the book. Please explain the Assyrian artifacts found in Iraq...what role do they play in Biblical history and why are they so important to us today? The King James as others obviously spoke of the Assyrians and its obvious that they were basically walking the Bible. When finding the tablets it proved that Assyrians actually existed...that part we I think we agree.

...what a bore you are...no one has ever said the ancient Assyrians didn;t exist...we, and real scholars, are saying YOU aren't related to them in any way.

Now connecting us to them is the key...that whole location thats occupied by Assyrian/Kurds/Yezidis etc. was not some area that raised interest...nobody gave a shit about it and they still dont today.

..is that why two wordl wars were fought for the oilfields...and the Iraq war too....no interest?

The bottomline is you take everyone in that region and we along with the Arameans are the only ones who connect with these tablets.

,,,how? because you lived on top of them for centuries and never knew they existed till the Euros dug them up and told you you MUST be the same people? Could you read the language they were written in or did the Euros have to teach you that as well...as a matter of fact do YOU speak Assyrian/Akkadian yet? You didn't know the language, you didn't know what was written in that language, in fact YOU "didn't give a damn" about you so called heritage and NEVER went digging...the Euros had to do it all for you...you are their invention i.n every way.

Aramaic was not only spoken 2000 years ago but also in Ancient Assyria...being that we have over 400 words that are in Akkadian and speak our own dialect of Aramean should be enough proof.

...no one disputes that the Arameans had a language and called it Aramean/Aramaic...or that that language wasn't spoken by Egyptians and Hebrews and Babylonians and Hittites and yes, even by Assyrians. It was the COMMON language of that region, not exclusive to the Assyrians OR the Arameans....so?

..that you speak the same language as your religious book is written in is no more surprising than that many non-Arab peoples have an Arab religion and know it by the Arabic language it is written in...had your bible been written in Chinese you'd be speaking that language today...and no doubt demanding parts of BEIJING!

...there are German words in the English language, that doesn;t make English a German language...they are "loan-words".

My father is not a liar plus he is almost 80 years of age. His father would not lie and would be well over 100 year old...we are Autoraya.

..this is what you say NOW...back then we called ourselves Suyrayi...Syrians...or Syriac speaking people but most often, Nestorians...we NEVER called ourselves Assyrians until after WW I. Your father and grandfather aren't liars...they were LIED to...and chose to believe it.


The same story has been passed on from father to son for years and years...nothing you can say will make me believe you

...it doesn;t matter in the least what YOU believe...what matters and what our goal is, is to tell others the truth about us...it is about getting rid of this silly notion, as you have told it, that we are related to the ancient Assyrians. No one who has studied it dispassionately, as a scholar, believes this horseshit...THOSE are the people we are writing for....so that they have some ammunition when they come across you fools.

...you're only purpose is to serve as evidence of how foolish those who peddle this nonsense are...by your own words, and your maps and the examples you give and even more by all things you avoid...you shed the greatest and harshest light of all on this nest of cockaroaches....we would have it so much harder if you people kept quiet...but you don;t...you bray and you whine and you swear and you ask us to call you and you accuse us of being Mexicans and each other and on and on...but you steadfastly refuse to discuss the issues...THAT is your value to us.


...first come clean andadmit who youare and why youre posing as someone else...sorry couldnt find your other post...


...keep looking.



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