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=> The Historical Record is Clear...

The Historical Record is Clear...
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Saturday, September 15 2007, 23:54:38 (CEST)
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..The Hysterical Record is still being shaped.



Jews and Christians were allowed to dwell in peace in Iraq under the Parthians , Sasanians and Muslims. Neither Jews nor any but orthodox Christians were allowed to live in peace among the two great Christian empires. Our own people, divided among Monophysite Jacobites and Nestorians would have been put to the sword by either Roman or Byzantine Christianity as heretics or forcibly converted.

The conquering Arabs showed toleration towards Jews and Christians, not caring a whit for the sectarian niceties which led to so much bloodshed under Christian rulers. The conditions for Christians under Sasanian and then Muslim rule depended upon the behavior of the Christians and not their religion…whenever native Christians supported, showed favoritism to or rejoiced and took advantage of the temporary victories of European Christian or Mongol or Russian ( and now American) armies, they paid a price when those forces left. It was the repeated treachery of certain groups of native Christians and the not so secret aim of the Christian European powers to take out the “sick old man of Europe” which led to the atrocities of the First World War in Turkey and not any dictate of Islam.

Christian clerics, hell bent to revive a fading Christianity in Mesopotamia , seized upon the erroneous notion that their people were direct descendants of the ancient Assyrians thereby giving them a “national “ cloak to disguise what they knew could not be claimed as merely a Christian minority i.e. a country of their own. Aside from clerics, Golden Opportunists saw in this claim to “nationhood” the chance to feather their nests by presenting themselves as the ones who would secure an “Assyria,” once proper payment was made to them, or gain a sycophantic following in the West among their own people, presenting themselves as a noble class who “at least try”. For “trying” this was infinitely more ego-gratifying than driving taxis, washing dishes, changing tires, or adding numbers in an office.

This all came about in the age of nationalist awakening to which the Nestorians added their voice, not as a Christian minority(for this was not an age of religious reawakening) but as an “Assyrian nation”…for nothing would be forthcoming, or could even be claimed, in the name of a religious sect…no one, but no one, was going to give Christians, surrounded by increasingly abused and hostile Muslims, their own nation. Therefore the dim “hope” was that it might be possible to secure a country for a “nation” of “Assyrians”, who just happened to all be Christians. Like anyone was fooled.

To the stunningly nonsensical demands of the nationalists that their very safety required a county of their own, one must ask how it could be that the Muslims, described by these same nationalists as very devils incarnate…who knew no bounds of decency and practiced every sort of blood-curdling atrocities on no provocation at all…except their own Islamic “bloodlust”, would EVER condone or leave in peace a minority Christian “nation” ripped from among their lands by force of Western Christian arms? Indeed, if this folly ever succeeded it would be the death knell of all remaining Christians in the region, now conveniently massed into one enclave, surrounded on all sides by the kinds of monsters these nationalists make Muslims out to be.

If Arab nations rejected the right to exist of Israel, also forced on them at gunpoint..and fought a succession of wars that later evolved into a running battle of guerilla attacks which has lasted since 1948…do our nationalists, pretty boys all, think anything less will happen to Christian sects corralled into one space, backed again by the western nations who ripped apart Palestine? When bloodshed erupts what makes any of them think the trapped Christians wouldn’t leave for the safety and opportunity of the Western Christian nations? Especially when all these so-called nationalists, safely crying “war” from a distance…all left Iraq without any such violence aimed at them as would be forthcoming if a Christian “nation” was formed by the West?

The Jews were forced to endure their plight in Palestine because far worse had been done to them at the hands of Christendom and they never knew if it wouldn’t happen again, or worse….they literally had nowhere else to go…no option. That isn’t the case with our Christians…and we see already how quickly all our fervent nationalists ran out of Iraq BEFORE even the conditions of the last ten years…you think any of them would return to their Christian “nation”…and take on the entire Muslim Middle East surrounding them….landlocked at that? THESE dweebs??? Does it have to be pointed out that these nationalists faint at INSULTS??? They’re going to FIGHT??? Or endure the kinds of hardships that would be their daily lot in a Christian nation carved out forcibly from Muslim lands…with the world’s richest petroleum under it…NOW???

To bolster their case certain thugs among us began slandering Islam, Arabs, Turks, Kurds and each other in an attempt to convince the world that it must “do something” to “save” the poor Christians from “benighted and perfidious Islam”…hence aina and beth and Zindalite, Magpie and the rest of them.

It’s a cheap shot…a poor trick. The very powers we are appealing to all know the history of that region better than we do, or care to admit. No one is going to give land to Christians that has oil under it…no one. There isn’t the slightest precedent for such a thing and it would unleash all sorts of demands and unquiet among a score of people around the world, also believing they are owed something, when the entire world knows that all nations steal their lands…as the Kurds have done and as the ancient Assyrians did.

The national argument is absurd and will get nowhere. The “ethnic” argument, that we are direct descendants of the ancients, is even sillier, although people smile and pat us on the head when we bring it up. The religious claim that Jesus deserves his own country as a safe haven for his followers is also ridiculous…who gives a shit for all the injustice being perpetuated in the world, by Christians no less, to care a fig for these sects of ours? Who has a “safe haven” and has “guarantees” in this world? Who…that WE expect and demand them?

All we are left with is a bunch of sore losers who’ve taken satisfaction all their lives in blaming Islam for their personal failures…who want now to add their lying voices to the lying West in order to get their bloody revenge, by proxy, against “Arabs”. In the process they merely use the very real plight of all Iraqis and especially the Christian among them, whom they strive to pit against Muslim, Turk, Arab and Kurd, in the hope that if enough of them are killed as “martyrs”, by Muslims, of course…the world will “feel sorry” for them, and heed the demands of these same nationalists living up to their butts in whipped cream in Modesto.

If the world never will…I do…the dumb bastards.



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