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Posted by Rashad (Guest) - Friday, February 24 2012, 8:13:19 (UTC)
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I think this may be the incident Pancho was talking about with Khalid Bin Walid

The treaty of protection made by Khalid ibn Al-Walid with the Christians of Al-Hira in Iraq states:

"Any aged non-Muslim who is unable to earn his livelihood, or is struck by disaster, or who becomes destitute and is helped by the charity of his fellow men will be exempted from the capitation tax and will be supplied with sustenance by the bait al-mal (the government treasury)"

"We have returned your money to you because we have been informed of the gathering of the enemy troops. You people, according to the conditions stipulated in the contract, have obliged us to protect you. Since we are now unable to fulfill these conditions, we are returning your money to you. We will abide by the conditions as agreed upon if we overcome the enemy."

Here is more from will Duran't book

"Christian heretics persecuted by the patriarchs of Constantinople, Jerusalem, Alexandria, or Antioch were now free and safe under a Moslem rule that found their disputes quite unintelligible. In the ninth century, the Moslem governor of Antioch appointed a special guard to keep Christian sects from massacring one another at church. Monasteries and nunneries flourished under the skeptical Umayyads; the Arabs admired the work of the monks in agriculture and reclamation, acclaimed the wines of monastic vintage, and enjoyed, in traveling, the shade and hospitality of Christian cloisters. For a time, relations between the two religions were so genial that Christians wearing crosses on their breasts conversed in mosques with Moslem friends. The Mohammedan bureaucracy had hundreds of Christian employees; Christians rose so frequently to high office as to provoke Moslem complaints. Sergius, father of St. John of Damascus, was chief finance minister to Abd-al-Malik, and John himself, last of the Greek Fathers of the Church, headed the council that governed Damascus. The Christians of the East in general regarded Islamic rule as a lesser evil than that of the Byzantine government and church.

Despite, or because of this policy of tolerance in early Islam, the new faith won over to itself in time most of the Christians, nearly all the Zoroastrians and pagans, and many of the Jews, of Asia, Egypt, and North Africa. (Will Durant, The Story of Civilization: The Age of Faith, Volume 4 p. 218-219)"

Here is a Nestorian Patriarch praising Muslims

Patriarch Geoff III

'The Arabs, to whom God has given power over the whole world, know how wealthy you are, for they live among you. In spite of this, they do not assail the Christian creed. To the contrary, they have sympathy with our religion, and venerate our priests and saints of our Lord, and they graciously donate to our churches and monasteries.' (Sir Thomas Arnold, Invitation To Islam, p. 102)


Lothrop Stoddard

'The caliph Umar took the utmost care to tend to the sanctity of the Christian holy places, and those who became caliph after him followed his footsteps. They did not harass the many denominations of pilgrims who came annually from every corner of the Christian world to visit Jerusalem.' (Lothrop Stoddard, The Islamic World At Present, Volume 1, p. 13-14)


Adam Mitz

"The Islamic shari'ah did not deny the non-Muslims any opportunity to work. They were engaged in lucrative professions; they were money exchangers, traders, jewelers and businessmen, physicians and landlords. They organized themselves in a lucrative manner. For example, most of the dealers in currency and jewelry in Syria were Jews; and most of physicians, clerks, and scribes were Christians. The Christian leader in Baghdad was the physician of the caliph; the Jew's leaders and businessmen were employees of the caliph. (Mitz, Adam, The Islamic Civilization in the Fourth Century A.H.,"

"'Islamic principles of tolerance forbade these actions [mentioned previously], that always involved some oppression. Muslims were the opposite of others, and it appears that they spared no effort in treating all of their Christian subjects with justice and equity. An example was the conquest of Egypt, when the Jacobites took advantage of the removal of the Byzantine authorities to dispossess the Orthodox Christians of their churches. The Muslims returned them to their rightful owners when the Orthodox Christians presented them with proof of ownership.' (Sir Thomas Arnold, Invitation To Islam, p. 87-88)"


Now I have provided evidence to refute the claims made by Aprim and every liar of his. I been doing this for years now and not one of them has provided evidence for one incident they claim. One would think they would be dying to shut us up, as Pancho said, but they never have. I think it's evident who is running or scared. We have even repeated ourselves whenever a new poster has visited this forum and we gladly do it over and over, but our opponents never do the same. They stay with calling us names and saying we work for their "enemies" and other absurd claims. They can't prove us wrong since these aren't our opinions, therefore, they try to divert attention by saying we are Kurds and other silly comments. Even if I were a Kurd, so what? Who cares what I am but focus on what I say and prove me wrong. And If i were a Kurd, why the hell would I be ashamed of it and I guess it's suppose to insult me by one of these dweebs calling me that.

My skin is thicker than that and words do not scare me off. directly descended from Ashur Banipal and king Sargon? Haha lol haha lol, i give them their own reaction.



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