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=> no one believes this crap....

no one believes this crap....
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Thursday, June 21 2012, 15:24:36 (UTC)
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I mean Christianity. In polls a majority of people still claim they believe in god....but I think that's something they think they have to say....deep down no one buys this nonsense. The value they see in religion and god is for "teaching morality"....meaning they need god to scare the children with...it's a short-cut to enforced compliance. American parents increasingly have no control over their children...spanking and beating is frowned upon if not illegal...so all they have left is god and his heaven/hell promises/threats.

Christianity has always been deathly afraid of human Reason....it outlawed it and murdered people for attempting it....it can no longer go quite that far, but it CAN make children distrust their own reasoning faculties...get them to think "thinking" is the Devil creeping into their thoughts to do battle against the Lord. It can get THEM to murder their own reason.

You can see this at work....a newly minted, born-again Christian begins to sweat whenever you attempt to reason about ANYTHING...just presenting a case for reason and logic makes them tremble, because they know what might happen next; you might turn Reason "against" religion...and to them any time you USE Reason it is as a weapon meant to undermine blind belief, otherwise called faith.

Humans were not meant to grow to adulthood still enthralled to obedience. Obedience is useful in getting by the first few years when everything is new to a human child and they need enlightenment and protection...but obedience is for dogs, not grown humans.

The one faculty we have that sets us apart from every other creature (as far as we know) is Reason. The ability to arrive at conclusions based on a complicated method of trial and error and creative imagining, but always with a reliance on evidence wherever possible, with sometimes a leap of "faith"...but a kind of faith-of-the-moment which seeks evidence just the same and demands it eventually. No reasonable human bean is content with faith forever...there must come soon evidence to back it up...whereas there is never and can never be evidence for religious faith.

In fact, to the religious, evidence is not even WANTED...the more absurd a notion is the more they claim you must believe it...its very unbelievability is proof of it's TRUTH...it's religious truth.

And that's where we are today; parents, and certain politicians, rely on faith to cover their tracks and make their agendas work. The sincere ones among them actually believe that without god there can be no moral teaching, no sense of right and wrong. This is a tremendous insult to humanity and ignorance of how we got here. We humans gave god his "morality", not the other way around...and we have had to lead God, kicking and screaming, into the sunlight, into civilized behavior. God is BAD for moral teaching because he takes responsibility away from humans...HE fucked up so now WE have to pay, or did till he decided to kill his son "for us". This is sick...it is no way to teach personal responsibility which is at the heart of all moral teaching.

But it's very popular with those Americans who feel their country, and their children, slipping away from them. God will put things right if only they can get their children to him fast enough and young enough so he can scare the shit out of them with Hell...or bribe them with Heaven....but at the least make them distrust their human reason and never develop it.

We can't run like the horse, or fly like the eagle, or swim like the fish, or jump 100 times our height like the flea....nor are we strong like the ant....without clothing we would roast or freeze to death...we are weak and deficient in practically every way when compared to any another animal...our only saving grace is this profound and unique ability to Reason...that's what makes us human, not the obedience of a dog or well trained horse, but the mental powers of reason which only humans have, to such a degree. To make Reason the enemy is to deny humans their humanity, their uniqueness. But a child's ability to reason is a delicate thing which needs nourishment before it can function well as it is meant to...the Church engages in yet another form of abuse when it stifles and then criminalizes a child's Reason...even more with born-again Christians whom we can see in several documentaries leading children in tremble-fests where three and ten year olds stretch their arms and weep and shake and repeat their love of Jesus....as adults they will distrust their reason, and that of everyone else, because their own reason has been made an enemy to them, to their faith, to their blind acceptance of what they were FORCED to believe, which left no room for human reason to grow and operate.

Reason makes mistakes too....which is all the more reason it has to be carefully explored and PRACTICED. Instead it is neglected, criminalized, sanctioned, forbidden and made the enemy of a "loving god". We're preparing hordes of such youngsters who will one day control more of our lives.

Don't say you weren't warned.



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