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the first Christians were Jews....
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Thursday, February 9 2012, 18:58:31 (UTC)
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...the Church takes advantage of the fact no one was keeping records or was much impressed with Jesus for the first 150 years or so after his execution, to leave us any account of who turned Christian and how, or why...so naturally they make it up as needed....you know: people heard of Jesus and fell all over themselves to join up....bull.

We know, for a fact, that the first converts were Jews...we know that because the crowd that took an interest in him while he lived were all Jews...and why wouldn't they be? Who else 7/8 of the way already a Christian, except for the name? Jesus attracted those who believed that he was the promised messiah...the whole notion of a messiah was Jewish, not anything else.

But, in Judea, Roman province as it was, it was dangerous to identify with what was a criminal, as far as Rome was concerned....however, over in Mesopotamia, where many Jews had settled, there was no Roman control...there Jews could do as they pleased and since these Jews were already unorthodox, because they could not make ritual sacrifice anywhere but in Jerusalem, the unorthodox message of Jesus would have suited them just fine.

One of us asked me once how I could be sure that we assyrians weren't Jewish tribes living in ancient "Assyria", who converted to what soon became Christianity....and that we had absolutely no affinity whatsoever with the ancient Assyrians but rather owed our origins to Jerusalem and other parts of the Jewish homelands? Good question...I don't know, but common sense tells me that only Jews were attracted to Jesus...and no one else.

Not until the Romans turned Christian did mass conversions take place, under threat of force and coercion of course. Later the Armenians would claim they were the first "nation" to leap into Christ, but that's revisionist nonsense....much like the New Testament and even Old Testament "prophecies"
, all of it claimed to have occurred much after the actual events....the Armenians, like the "assyrians" merely fabricated a date, before Rome started mass-producing Christians, when they "turned to Christ".

Until 335 AD, when Rome adopted and adapted Christianity, mostly only Jews were converting to Christ...even though Paul changed the rules so anyone could join...undoubtedly opportunists leaped aboard here and there...but not until Rome chose this religion to unify their disparate empire with did great numbers of people "become" Christians....

....this is the reason Christians slander Islam with their own crimes; because they are ashamed of their own history and seek to make it the "norm" for other religions that they forced people to "love" their god....same with the push to brand the Turks with the label of genocide; because this what only Christians have done and it also embarrasses them...the good news is that they can be embarrassed at all...the bad news is that they still can't take responsibility for their own, unique, actions....but that shouldn't be a surprise either because their own "Jesus-came-to-pay-for-your-sins" belief and teaching removes all responsibility from the individual for his OWN crimes and instead makes them the "fault" of a total innocent who then has to pay YOUR price, with his innocent life...their religion makes them irresponsible, as it makes them murderous....and liars to boot.



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